Stacey Delo
Hi, everybody. Thanks for joining thanks for your patience got a little bit of a technical difficulty there. So today, this is a working session where we’re going to identify the components of a successful job search, the things that you must be comfortable with to organize yourself and keep yourself inspired during the process. We’re going to identify ways to work around the things that are holding you back and do a little live coaching. And hopefully you’ll walk away with a great plan. So good morning. Hi there. I’m Stacey Delo. And along with Tina Mondragon, and Megan Strickland and Jordan Martindale we are pray. We’re all here today on this call as well and excited to be here with you. Our purpose that I pray is to help you discover what it is your turn to do. And through this process, the way that we do this is we offer really three major tools, one being our newsletter, which is the best way to stay informed with us about what’s going on on apprai new jobs that are coming in webinars that are coming up, we offer one on one coaching, which I’ll talk a little bit more about in a minute. And also we have a boutique job board where resume gaps are welcome. And right now, by boutique it usually means there’s not a ton of jobs for you to get overwhelmed in that scrolling process that I know everyone is familiar with and sort of done with, you will not suffer that on our website. These are jobs that are really curated by businesses that reach out to us that are looking to hire people who’ve been on caregiving breaks back into the workforce or looking to pivot to something different or better. Right now. We just added in four new positions with Bank of America. Okay, you’re not seeing the slides advancing. They’re not advancing or having a real issue with their slides. Okay, let me start over so that we can figure this out. Hang tight, everybody. I’m going to stop the share. Okay. Let me do this. Hang on this Okay, all right. Give me a sec. Okay, well, chime in here. While I’m good. I

Megan Strickland
was just gonna say while we’re while we’re working on our technical difficulties, it would be really great to know where everyone is zooming in from today. We, Tina, Stacy and I are all on the west coast in California. Anyone else out here? Or if you want to tell us in the chat, where you are in your job, search, job, your career journey. We also love knowing that information, because it just helps us understand what types of jobs you all are looking for. You know, if you’re trying to pivot to a new industry if you’re returning to the workforce. Yeah. Jordan’s in Boulder, Colorado. So we’re all kind of West Coast.

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Stacey Delo
Is this working? Yes. But it says the chat is disabled. Hmm. What’s happening? Maybe I should restart or something. It shouldn’t it shouldn’t be read. It shouldn’t be disabled at all. The participants

Megan Strickland
how she got Okay, great. Okay. Yeah. So let us know where you’re from in the chat and also where you are in your career journey.

Stacey Delo
Yay. Okay, do you see the slides now too? Oh, okay. Technical difficulties, hopefully solved. Okay. All right. So let me kind of get back to where I was. Here we go. Our purpose. Here’s what we do. I just wanted to finish up on the job board right now. We do have these really amazing positions from Bank of America that are designed as return to work programs and offer to 12 months of full training, and these are jobs, they’re not returnships. And they’ve been really thoughtful about putting these together. They’re largely in the banking arena, but they have a variety of them. So please definitely go to the job board and take a look at those, we have a few jobs with some science organizations, and then an interior design group that looks really cool. And then we have some opportunities to upskill with an organization called Aspire ship. They offer sales, training, and customer service training. And then another one with, hey, their social media, who we’ve worked with now for a long time, and that’s a social media upskilling opportunity. So take a look at all of those. They’re great positions, and they all want to hear from all the folks on this call. So next up, I just wanted to walk really quickly through our coaching. We love talking to you all individually, we’ve had some really great coaching sessions this week. And our our coaching programs, I get questions a lot on what exactly? Can I can I sort of pick and choose to put my coaching package together? And the answer is absolutely yes, please just reach out. We’ve kind of put together some processes that we think work really well. But it’s up to you all, how you would like to, to get the most out of your time with us. So please do reach out if you have questions. But essentially, when you come in, we have some forms that you fill out so that we have a good sense of what you’re looking to actually accomplish. And then you depending on which package you sign up for you meet with me first, and then you get passed to Tina or Meghan on our team. If you just sign up for a LinkedIn profile or resume review, you again fill out a form and then Tino or Meghan will work with you. And basically, their purpose is to help you take a look at the if it’s LinkedIn resume to look at those job descriptions. And then really tightly map your materials to those jobs that you’re applying for. They can also work with you on your elevator pitch some of the things that we’re going to be talking about today. So we encourage you to really take advantage of these. Okay, this is just an example of some of the people that we’ve worked with some some folks have taken no break at all, some folks have taken a couple years of a break. And then some people have taken anywhere from 15 to 20 years of our career break. So we really work with people at various stages of career breaks, or no career breaks. So just for a little bit of inspiration, I had an incredible conversation yesterday with Jennifer Siebel Newsom, you can watch it on our Instagram, which I encourage you to follow, we’re going to be doing a lot more of these live interviews. Jennifer is the filmmaker and founder of the representation project. And along with Eve Brodsky recently produced the documentary fair play which takes a look at how we look at caregiving and assign meaning and value to that and the mental load. She’s also the first partner of California. She is doing amazing things, it was a really interesting conversation. So I highly encourage you to go and watch it. And we’re just really grateful for the opportunity to meet with her yesterday. Okay, our member survey is still up, please, hopefully, Jordan will be able to throw that in the chat. Please do. Take take advantage of letting us know where you are in your career journey and how we can be most helpful. And we’re we’re going to be drawing a free LinkedIn or resume review with this. And I think we’re going to close it down on the 30th of September. So please try to get it in before them.

Okay, next up, we are going to be talking about building your job search plan. Today, we’re going to be doing a little bit of live coaching. This is meant to be just kind of a overview of the tools that we think that will make for a successful job search. And I’ll explain a little bit more about that in a second before we get going. It’s just some ground rules. This is a net kind space. Everyone in this career. Job Search phase usually isn’t a little bit of a vulnerable state. So our our purpose is to be really kind to each other and helpful if you can. If you have any ideas or things that can be helpful to others, please throw them in the chat. Use the q&a box for any specific questions that we can answer at the end helps us keep track Take notes. And then also just remember, during this time that we have together that we really believe it is your turn. And the more that you can believe that as well, the more you know, the more you’re going to get out of your time with us. And the more that you’re going to get closer to whatever that next job phase is for you. So please take a minute, have a cup of coffee, light a candle, whatever it is, that sort of helps you zone in on yourself, and believe that it can be your turn and apply these tools in that context. Okay, so I want to start out with something a little bit fun. But the idea here is that we were talking about this yesterday in our prep call, to get a job really requires that you treat the process, like a job, you have to be accountable to yourself and to others, you have to put the work in the research and the thought and the time. And so in the spring, we shared this slide actually in a different presentation. And it was kind of a fun one well received. And it it stemmed from how my kids were using colorful language around that house for words that they shouldn’t be using. And one of them was talking mushrooms. And so in our presentation we talked about I am going to project manage the talking mushrooms out of myself and 2022 to accomplish whatever it is that you’re going to accomplish. And then sort of pound that it is my turn aspect at the end. So I’m hoping that as you think through and listen to what Tina and Megan are going to walk through today, that you you do it in the with the idea that you can fill this out at the end, and we’ll share it again, our goal is for you to be able to pick your own colorful language, PG, please and then add, you know what it is that you’re hoping to accomplish at the end, print it out, post it up in your house, so you can see it and share it with others. Okay, the tips that you that the two ladies here on the call are going to walk through are based on the concept that an effective job search is really driven by these pieces, what drives you and your core competencies. So understanding your motivations and your core competencies equal an effective job search. But on top of that, then you have to have all of the pieces to pull together to then go and execute that effective job search. And so that is what is the purpose of today’s webinar. So with that, I am going to turn it over to Megan and Tina, who are going to walk through what we see as kind of these eight key components to a good job search plan. So Tina, Megan, thank you so much for having thought through all of these slides and bearing with the technical difficulties earlier. But I turn it over to you.

Tina Mondragon
Oh, okay. Good morning, everybody. We’re delighted to have you here love reading your comments in the chat where you’re from and where you are in your career journey. So these are our eight key components to help you with your job search. The first one is super important, is know your target. If you know your target, the rest of these steps will all fall into play all fall into place. So you really want to figure out what type of job it is that you want with your job search. What is your ask yourself questions? What is your dream career path? What do you want from your job? Do you want it to be full time? Do you want to be part time? Try to be as clear as you can with your goals and what you’re looking for in that job? What motivates you? What do you enjoy doing? Try and picture yourself in certain roles and think where would you be the happiest? Or where would you be able to benefit by giving your skills the most to that company? What type of job fits with your schedule with your personality? You can do a self assessment of your strengths to help you figure out what your target is. But you really want to establish your career objective to know your target when looking for that role. What do you love to do have a crystal clear understanding of all of the assets that you bring to this role, your skills and all the requirements that you’re looking for out of a job very important to start your job search is to know what the target is. Where are you going with this job search.

Stacey Delo
And we are our webinar last week I’ll just mention quickly really helped kind of hone in on how to get how to get clear on that. So I highly recommend those slides are available. Please go and watch that.

Megan Strickland
Okay, and then once you know your target you are the The next key component is having a strong elevator pitch. And, you know, so a good elevator pitch, you need this, you need this for your first interview question that, you know, probably 90% of recruiters tell us, the first question they ask in an interview is Tell me about yourself. So that’s your elevator pitch. You also need it for when you’re on the sidelines of a soccer game, or when you’re walking around your neighborhood and you bump up to a neighbor, and they say, Oh, what have you been up till? So you need it. And for a social context, you know, at the back to school night context, and you also need it as you progress through the job search. But what makes for a good elevator pitch is it makes sense it uses language that people understand. And it has a point, it also shows that you know what your strengths are? And know, do you know who you’re speaking with? Are you speaking to a recruiter? Or are you speaking to a friend who happens to be at a VP at a company that you’re interested in working at? And you know what, that you know what’s next? So you’ll see to the right here, we have a an example of it, a good elevator pitch. And again, if you don’t know that first step, if you don’t know what your target is, and makes having a strong elevator pitch very difficult, because people want to help and if they say, you know, okay, you’re ready for a new job, what do you want to do? And you don’t have an answer to that, that makes having a strong elevator pitch very difficult. So key component number two is having a strong elevator pitch.

Stacey Delo
And it’s not so much that you would go and repeat this statement, everywhere you go, this is kind of the construct of the of the statement that you want. But if you were talking to somebody in person, you probably would put this in a different format, right? I’d like to rely I’d like to fall back on my acting skills, and work in sales. You know, I’m not saying it correctly now. But you use more usable language, I

Megan Strickland
suppose. Yeah. conversational language. Yeah. It’s also very helpful. So in your resume, your we often suggest that people have a summary statement or a professional summary at the top of your resume, which is a more a written version of your elevator pitch. And then also in your LinkedIn write out section. So you need it and speaking form conversational speaking, form, interview speaking form, and then in a written form, as well.

Tina Mondragon
And another reason why it’s so important to have an elevator pitch is people will help you people want to help help people, people love to help people. And so just by putting it out there, I might not be able to help you if you hear that, but then our team here might be able to help you. So you’re just putting it out there. And so or somebody might have an idea to share with you. That’s why it’s just crucial to have that elevator pitch ready to go be confident saying it Be positive, be smiling, know what it is you want to do, because people will want to help you and support you.

Stacey Delo
And it’s a lot better than saying, I’m still trying to figure it out. They’re still trying to figure that out. This is what you’re trying to use the people that you that you talk to, you know, get the most of the networking out of them. Yep. Okay.

Tina Mondragon
Okay, and so the next your next component is to make a strong resume. If you’ve had a resume in the past, you need to update your resume, you should update your resume for every job that you are applying for. So make sure for that job that you’re applying for your resume has those keywords we’ve done from that job description into that resume for when applying for a job. So you want to map the resume to jobs that you are interested in, you should have a different resume or tweak your resume each time you’re applying for a job. When you find that job description, I tell people you print it out, or you highlight those keywords that they’re looking for in the job description and you try to weave them in to your resume. So it’s a match. So they see that the skills that you have or the skills that they’re looking for in that job. So you’re identifying those key words and weaving them into the resume. Understand where you have gaps on your resume, maybe they’re looking for somebody with some skills that you feel like you need to brush up on. Take a take a course there’s so many virtual courses right now LinkedIn has courses. And if you take them, they’ll pop up on your LinkedIn that you’ve gotten certified in that course. Udemy has courses Coursera has courses. There’s so many upskilling opportunities that you can do that then you can add that to your resume that you are proficient in Microsoft Excel, if that’s something that they’re looking for. Add metric metrics make your experience quantifiable on your resume, you did X in your job, which was valuable because of why in your job you want to put put numbers in there, you save time you made money, you speed it up a process, anything that you can do to quantify those things on your resume is really impactful. It’s what they’re looking for hiring managers are looking for. And then share with people have somebody eyeball your resume before sending it in, we do resume coaching at apprai, we’d be happy to work with you on your resume before applying it in. But it can really make a huge difference, that your resume is what gets your foot in the door. So you really want to spend those few moments, tweaking that resume when applying for every job that you’re looking at.

Stacey Delo
And the only other thing I want to mention about this upskilling piece, I think, I think people get a little distracted in a way about how much upskilling they need to do, I think that you should be really focused on what if you want to switch from, you know, into user experience, then you’re going to need to do some kind of UX training or UX certificate. Same with any, you know, sort of technical piece like that, if you want to upskill just to sort of round out your own, you know, education for yourself and feel comfortable about using Slack or I don’t know something like this, then, then that’s great, too. But I would just be careful of not letting it get you too far. get too hung up on needing to upskill too much. And really, that’s why working with Tina or Meghan is a great idea, because they’ll be able to help you call the previous experiences and skills and then talk with you about whether it really makes sense to take those programs.

Megan Strickland
Definitely. Okay, and the next component is having a strong LinkedIn profile, and also a strong LinkedIn presence. And while you’re doing this, while you’re getting your profile together, you want to make sure that you are increasing your network, your virtual network. So that LinkedIn is really where you build your virtual brand. And recruiters are on LinkedIn all day, every day. That is where they so you know, it really is important. It’s a great way to learn about new topics or to learn about new industries, we recommend following companies that you’re interested in, because then they will not only post jobs, as soon as they’re available on LinkedIn, and you’ll be one of the first people to see them. They also post updates to like, you know, we just recently launched this new product, or we just acquired a new company. So it’s a great way to learn about your company, the companies you’re interested in or new topics, it’s also a great way to stay connected with people. So if you know that someone you went to college with works in the space that you’re interested in, even if you haven’t talked to them in 10 years, you can send them a quick message on LinkedIn, they will remember you. So it’s just a great way to stay connected with people who maybe you’ve lost touch with. And it’s a great way for recruiters to find you. Because as I said, they use this all day every day.

Tina Mondragon
Yeah, and it’s really important to have a picture, if you don’t have a picture on your LinkedIn, you need a picture on your LinkedIn profile. I was working with a woman the other day, and she was going to print business cards to take to a networking event. And I mentioned she really didn’t need to have business cards at the networking event, she could just connect with everybody on LinkedIn that she met at the networking event, and then she would forever they would forever have her contact. You know, sometimes you lose a business card. But she would forever have that contact on her on her LinkedIn. And she thought that was a wonderful idea, especially because of COVID. Maybe somebody doesn’t want to take a business card from somebody else. But that’s just a great way to connect. Anytime you meet somebody connect with them on LinkedIn within 24 to 48 hours really quickly just say it was great to Great to meet you. Great to run into you connect with them on LinkedIn. Okay, so our next tip is to find a strong organizational system that works for you. In today’s market, it’s not uncommon to submit applications for multiple positions at multiple companies. It can get quite chaotic possibly. So it involves a lot of time. It’s a lot to keep track of. Make sure you stay organized throughout this whole process. There’s a lot of logistics that can go into looking for a new job. You want to research the companies the job who you’ve talked to, did you do an informational interview You, when did you send your resume. So create some sort of system that can keep you on track of where you’re going. And also, you can set those goals like maybe you want to apply to a job a day or five in a week to keep your, your, your momentum going forward. With that you can write down when you have scheduled interviews, where are the interviews? Are they virtual? Are they in person? What you need to prepare for that? Are you ready for that interview, when to follow up how to how to manage all of this, you don’t want to drop the ball. And so staying organized with the whole system can be very beneficial, because there’s a lot of details to stay on top of things. Like Stacey, you were just mentioning that you have a friend that applied to how many jobs?

Stacey Delo
Yeah, it was like 150. I mean, it was crazy. But in some of those cases, it’s literally just there, cuz they’re clicking that apply button on LinkedIn, like just, it’s so easy, they make it so easy now, right, you can just click like, like, like, like, but you know, they had a good outcome of of that. But it was probably the combination of the strategy of applying to a lot. So you, which will we’ll get at a little bit later in this presentation, too. But also, using that networking aspect as well. And being really intentional about getting out and talking to people that was that was a big piece of that search as well.

Tina Mondragon
Yep. And some ideas is you could do a Google sheet, you could do an Excel spreadsheet. It’s also a learning curve, too, maybe you’re not as as comfortable on a Google Sheet, it’s a great way to get more comfortable creating this organizational system for yourself. There’s oodles of project management tools that are out there, Asana, Trello, click up monday.com are just a few of them. But you can just Google that and find the system that works best for you. Maybe it’s just the traditional, you have a notebook and you’re writing them down, whatever works the best for you. But just try to keep organized with the whole system and process.

Megan Strickland
And I it’s also really important if you apply for a job, and you know, you make it to the interview stage, either if you’re like a online computer person, make sure that you copy and paste the job description and have it saved someplace. Or if you’re a paper and pen type of person print out the job description, because sometimes, by the time they have started interviewing, that job description is not available online anymore. So it’s really important to have that so that you know what you’re prepping for. And it’s also having a system in place is also really helpful for informational interviews to keep track of who you met with who they know, when you sent your follow up email when you sent a thank thank you note. So it’s just it’s helpful to have this all in one place where whichever method you use. Yeah.

Stacey Delo
Just was just looking at where everyone is from so, so great. Okay, um, oops, we’re going the wrong way. There we go. Oh, good. Exercise time.

Megan Strickland
Great. Okay. So if you okay, we would really love for someone at brave soul to raise their hand and join us on the webinar. And we’re going to walk you through a resume. So you can I mean, I’m sorry, an exercise.

Stacey Delo
Yeah. So So think about just for a second, you know, if you had to pinpoint something that’s been the most challenging for you during your job search right now, are there one or three things that you can write down? pinpoint the one that sort of most, you know, of those lists is the one that standing out to me most, I don’t have an elevator pitch, or I find it really difficult to stay organized, whatever it is, we would love to just hear from you so that we could maybe help you get around it and it would be valuable to other people. So if you want to talk out loud, you can put this in the chat if there’s something but if you want to talk out loud, you can raise your hand and we can come to you we don’t see you, we just hear you. But we can allow you to talk. So if there’s a brave soul that would like to do that, please go for it. Otherwise you can just write in the chat.

Unknown Speaker
Looking at the chat, too.

Stacey Delo
Jordan let me know if you see anything, no one wants to get a quick live live coaching opportunity.

Megan Strickland
maybe by the end other

Tina Mondragon
maybe? Well, I’m for an example I had somebody the other day tell me that they weren’t ready to apply for jobs because they didn’t feel like their LinkedIn profile was in perfect condition to be applying for jobs, which I think it’s a great example. So maybe we could use that. Yeah, cleaning the sample today of what’s why is that holding you back not having a perfect LinkedIn profile?

Stacey Delo
Well, what I mean, it can take a while to do a good LinkedIn profile. So what would be your suggestion there? What are some? What’s the sort of the top three components that somebody should have?

Megan Strickland
A picture? Already said, yeah. It does not have to be a professional photo, like it doesn’t have to be an actual professional photographer, but took it right need to look, you can’t have like a hat and sunglasses and be on the beach, you need to look, it needs to look like you so that they can be your face so that if you bump into them at a networking event, they’ll remember you. Yeah, but that’s one very easy, and you can just literally upload it from your phone to LinkedIn, it takes five seconds.

Tina Mondragon
Yep. Yep. And then second, I would say is to have job titles underneath your name, whether it’s jobs that you’re aspiring to do things you’ve done in their past, but to have

Stacey Delo
those

Tina Mondragon
keywords like project manager, a community volunteer, marketing, communications, have those titles up there at the top, just letting people know, what you’d like to do professionally is really what you’re putting up there. Those two things, and then what would be the third thing?

Megan Strickland
Well, I mean, your name is a piece of it, too, if you have been married, and you have changed your name, making sure to have your maiden name as well, so that people that you went to college with will remember you. And then the I think the next most important section is probably your about section, which is where you describe what you are. But again, if you are ready to apply for jobs, this does not have to be picture perfect. I always love to think of Stacey, because Stacey is constantly changing her LinkedIn. So she’s like constantly iterating on it. And that’s how you have to think of it it’s it will be evolved with you know, just having you know, the key pieces that reflect who you are and how you relate to the job you’re applying for.

Tina Mondragon
Yeah, I think your your photo, the titles, and then you need to populate some work history in there. And you can apply for jobs without an about section without the background picture behind you. Um, because you’re ready, you’ve got pretty much the the, the bones to your LinkedIn profile, right there. And then you can the about section can evolve as you move forward. You can add the background picture, but don’t let that hold you back from applying for a job. If you have those key components right there.

Stacey Delo
Yeah, especially because what happens often is you click Apply. And then it actually takes you to whatever the ATS system that the talent application system that that company uses. And it will auto populate those job titles and the dates associated with them into that ATS system. But then it gives you the opportunity to upload your resume or edit and so it doesn’t have to be it doesn’t have to be picture perfect all the time. It does. I think those are the right things, your education in there as well kind of goes along with what those job titles are just telling your sort of chronological story like that. But those those are really the main the main points for LinkedIn. I do like to iterate and reminds me that I haven’t done that in a while. But I like to remind people that the reason that I like to do that is it it. It travels with you everywhere you go on LinkedIn. So when you comment on anybody else’s post, it has your photo, it has your name, and it has some kind of title. It’s that title at the top that travels with you. And so you can have fun with that. You can you you can have, you know, if you’re a recruiter, a lot of times people will say I’m hiring right in that title. So it would say, you know, Megan Strickland I’m hiring if she was hiring and and that travels with her everywhere she goes and her footprint on LinkedIn. So anyway, just to keep that in mind. All right, well, if anyone feels Brian wants to raise their hand and a little bit Feel free to feel free to give us a shout, and we will we will come to you. Okay. Just our last few tips here, and then we can take some of the questions. I think

Megan Strickland
this one is arguably the most important, just knowing I mean, the job search process is hard and it’s draining. So just having confidence in yourself that you have picked the right path, and you are going to find a job because you are you’re going to find a job and it’s going to be a meaningful job. So just like really believing that and like with each time you apply for a job, it gets easier each time you interview for a job, it gets easier. So really having that confidence and understanding it’s a process but that you can do this is just it goes so far.

Tina Mondragon
And and building that confidence are the first three steps or four steps that we’ve talked about up to this point, having that target, working on your resume, doing your LinkedIn profile, having that elevator pitch, all of these build on that building your confidence, having you ready for that, that job. So it’s really important to do all of these key components, because they all kind of build on each other. And the more you’re spending time on this, the more you’re applying for these jobs, the more you will be more confident. Yeah, yeah.

Stacey Delo
Oh, go ahead. Go ahead. CZ. Well, I was just going to add that, that this, as Megan said, at the beginning, this is a very draining process. I mean, I wish we had something different to say it can be and it also can be full of unfortunately, rejection. And that is hard. For anyone really, I mean, you can be the most confident person in the world, and it still doesn’t feel good. So being able to fall back on the structure and the materials that you have feeling really good about them, and then having somebody that you can share and talk with and sort of who can, can fill your cup, right while you’re going through this experience is is is really important.

Megan Strickland
Yeah, and also having an accountability partner. So if you’re in the stage, if you’re like at key component number two or three, and you’re really still working on your resume to get stronger. Let’s say you want to set a goal, okay, for this week, you’re gonna work on your resume for one hour each day, you know, it helps unless you’re a very self driven person, it really helps to add that, like, Come Friday, be like, okay, you know, someone is like, so did you work on your resume for four hours this week? It does. And not in an, like, mean way, but just someone else to hold you accountable to keep you moving forward. Okay.

Tina Mondragon
All right. Okay, and so next, you want to have achievable goals, Megan was just kind of touching on this in the last slide is you want to make sure they’re they’re realistic and achievable. The goals that you set your set for yourself along this whole process. Maybe it’s that you want to have a job in two months, or three months, maybe it’s you want to apply to one job a day or five. By the end of the week, give yourself the goals that you know that you can meet while doing this whole process. Because as we were talking about it can, it can be draining hopefully, for all of you or some of you, you’ll apply for that one job and you’ll get it. But for a lot of people it can sometimes it can be it can be a process it can. And it’s a learning process the whole time, whenever you apply for a job and you don’t get that job. I always tell people, pat yourself on the back, because you went for something. And what did you learn from that process? What can you take away from that experience, because the next time you send that resume, you’ll be a little bit more confident or a little bit stronger from what you learned from the previous experience. So really set achievable goals along the way, be kind to yourself when achieving these goals or reaching for these goals. But make them realistic that you can feel proud of yourself at the end of the day, maybe have that to do list. And maybe it’s I’m going to spend 15 minutes on LinkedIn, or an hour on LinkedIn. I’m going to connect with five new people every day or every week. I’m going to sign up for Glassdoor, indeed, LinkedIn to get job alerts. I’m going to have them come daily. I’m going to check that email every day read through those apply to a job. I’m going to spend five or 10 minutes just reviewing my resume each day. All of those things of practicing my elevator pitch. All of those things can help you on your way to landing that job. Totally

Stacey Delo
Okay, there’s a good there’s a good coaching moment in the chat. But let’s let’s round this out, we didn’t go in the wrong way again. And then. Yes,

Megan Strickland
saying yes to opportunities along the way, you know, if you I think another good goal to consider is, you know, talk to five people who work in the social impact space and like, understand, you know, how did they get to this job? What skills do they have that really helped them? Is there anyone else they can think of that you should talk to? So that’s, I think, talking to people through what the job is actually like. And then they may say, you know, based on what you told me your interests are and your skill set, I think that you should also consider a role in customer success. Maybe you hadn’t even thought of that. So like, you don’t want it to get too broad, but being open to new opportunities, is really important as well.

Stacey Delo
Yeah, and I, we use the term deal flow. Because, or I use the term deal flow here, my a friend of mine used to always say, like, you can’t close any deals without any deal flow. And the idea applies to jobs as well, you can’t get a new job, if you haven’t applied to jobs. I mean, you can, I suppose, you know, there are there are circumstances where that surely happens. But for the most part, you have to be active and sending your resume out and, and taking that those steps. So that’s really what that’s relying on. And also, again, feeling like there might be, there might be the perfect position out there, and then might be the slightly less perfect position. And just being okay with saying yes to one of them. So that you can grow into new roles is really critical is really important. Okay, so I wanted to first of all, in chat, I love that there are two people here on the call from Spain who are going to hopefully connect at so cool. Um, but I wanted to address one of the points because I think this is a great coaching opportunity. Tina and Megan for you, too. So basically, it’s somebody who has worked at a at a local bank, wants to work in international global banking. Has a has an, it seems like a banking background, JP Morgan, but wants to move from a banker role into Portfolio Management and has the knowledge but maybe is having trouble kind of taking those next steps. What would be your first suggestion? As a great first first step,

Tina Mondragon
first step, I would talk to people who are in that portfolio management role and ask them how they got that job? What did they do to get that job, maybe you know, somebody who’s in your current role that is currently a portfolio in the portfolio management role, and you can talk to them about how they were able to get into that position. But you can find out a lot through that kind of informational interview. And maybe you’ll find that there’s a lot of skills, which it sounds like there probably are, that are transferable in in that role, because that’s really when you’re applying for that new role. You want to show what skills you are, you have that are transferable into that role. But that would be the first step I would take is talk to people who are in the role that you are seeking to do, and find out what they love about it, what skills they need for it, and how were they able to get to that position where they’re at what is their background that enabled them to land that job? Is a good start.

Megan Strickland
Yeah, and I think the same goes for trying to move from a local bank to an international bank, talking to people about, you know, how, again, what Tina said people who work for an international bank, how did they get that job? And just the more people you talk to, and then at the end of each of those conversations, saying, Can you think of anyone else I should talk to I’m really hoping to switch to an international bank, like maybe they know a recruiter who you can talk to.

Tina Mondragon
And if you don’t know anybody, LinkedIn is great for doing research. You can research people who are in portfolio management roles, and check them out people who that you admire in those roles and see, what are they putting on their LinkedIn profile that you might be able to add to your LinkedIn profile, that are skills that you have to bring to the role and look at their past work history, see how they were able to land that role in the future. That’s another great place to do it. Search on that.

Stacey Delo
Yeah. Yeah. Hello, I hope that’s helpful. But that sounds like an exciting, exciting change. Okay, Mike goes backward the other time. Okay. So basically, we just wanted to kind of wrap up today with this idea of project, managing the talking mushrooms out of whatever it is that you would like to do. You’re welcome to put that in the chat if you want. But we really want you to think about the pieces that we’ve provided today, and then put your plan in place and treat it like a job to get a job. And, and put some parameters around it maybe for yourself on time. Everyone seems to always have a different time. You know, there’s so many different timelines that people offer of how long it should take to get a job. I don’t think there’s really one, right or the other, it probably really depends on what your situation is, if you really if you need a job today, versus if you have the luxury of time to spend more of more time in that exploratory phase. But if you’re ready to get a job, and you’re ready to put those pieces together, then put that plan together for yourself and try to bookend it, maybe with some general calendaring and, and project manage it. It’s funny, we posted this, I posted this on LinkedIn back in the spring, and I had a number of people reach out to me and who hadn’t been on the webinar or anything, but say that that is exactly how they got their job. They treated it like a project that they needed to manage. And so I think there’s something really to that. Alright, well, I’ll just check the chat. Anything else that there’s some couple questions. Oh, I want to be cognizant of our time. There’s one question about where do you find us an accountability partner? I mean, that could be that could be a friend that could be an old colleague. Maybe it could be a partner or somebody. But I don’t know, do you all have any thoughts on that?

Megan Strickland
It can be helpful to find someone else who’s in a job search mode as well. And you can kind of work together and share notes. Like, you know, I was just asked this question in an interview, and I wasn’t really prepared. How would you answer that? So if you can find someone else’s looking for a job, that’s very helpful. But yeah, coach,

Stacey Delo
the coach, yeah. Um, and then resume question how to we, Victoria, we can see we have a bunch of tools on the website about presenting your volunteer work. And, and Tina and Megan are really good at helping to position that on a resume. But that absolutely, absolutely does, does need to exist on your website. Sorry, on your resume. And we can probably address that offline. Good. Okay. Thank you all so much. It’s perfect timing because my dog is about to go nuts. But thank you all very much. Thank you, Tina, and Megan. And I hope that we can. We’re going to be back here in I think, two weeks. We’ll we’ll send the next one out for what our next webinar is, but if you have any questions in the meantime, we’re contacted operate group.com We definitely believe that it is your turn. So let us know what you end up project managing to get the job. And thanks, everyone. Hey, bye. Thank you.

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